Episode 72: Suspicious Minds: The Mistrust/Abuse Schema
/In this solo episode, Chris explores the Mistrust/Abuse schema, including its activation, how it presents, coping styles, and how to help clients presenting with this schema.
In this solo episode, Chris explores the Mistrust/Abuse schema, including its activation, how it presents, coping styles, and how to help clients presenting with this schema.
Today we discuss the Enmeshment schema, including its origins, problems, and treatment.
Here’s our Enmeshment Playbook - a brief guide of the schema
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In this episode, Robert Brockman is joined by Wendy Behary (an advanced schema therapist based in New Jersey). They focus on how the schema therapy model can be used to manage challenging situations related to grief and loss.
Some links from today's show
- https://www.imrs.nl/en/ - Imagery Rescripting Knowledge Platform
Papers mentioned in the podcast
Peeters, M., Van Passel, B., Peeters, N., & Krans, J. (2026). Do schema modes predict outcome of cognitive behavioural therapy in patients with obsessive-compulsive disorder and anxiety disorders? British Journal of Clinical Psychology. https://doi.org/10.1111/bjc.70052.
Peeters, N., Van Passel, B., Hendriks, G.J., Becker, E., & Krans, J. (2025). Schema-therapeutic exposure for treatment resistant anxiety and obsessive-compulsive disorders: A multiple baseline case series design study. Psychiatry Research Case Reports, 4, 100241. https://doi.org/10.1016/j.psycr.2024.100241
Arslan, F., Krans, J., Hendriks, G.J, Mobach, L., & Kampman, M. (2025). Imagery rescripting for patients with obsessive-compulsive disorder not responding to outpatient cognitive behavioral therapy. Behaviour Research and Therapy, 193. https://doi.org/10.1016/j.brat.2025.104823
Kadriu, F., Claes, L., Witteman, C., Vroling, M., Norre, J., & Krans, J. (2022). Intrusive images, autobiographical memories, and core beliefs of patients with an eating disorder. Applied Cognitive Psychology, 36(4), 842-851. https://doi.org/10.1002/acp.3974
The study where we assessed modes during exposure is not published yet. You can find the preregistration here: https://doi.org/10.17605/OSF.IO/UPKC7
EABCT conference in Brussels 17-19 September —> ST-informed CBT topics
We have a new Facebook page!- https://www.facebook.com/groups/whatstheschemata
This podcast centres around the recent Dialectical Behavior Therapy vs Schema Therapy for Patients With Borderline Personality Disorder: The BOOTS Multicenter Randomized Clinical Trial https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/42018336/
In this episode we explore the abandonment schema, what it is, how to help and how it plays out in treatment
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWmwTPaxerE&list=PLzZfxr90SZjEmasv9dqppfvwQChddTPFT&index=1
In this episode, we’re joined by Dr Georgie Capone and Dr Rob Szymanek from the UK to discuss the “Schema Therapy for Life!” project. Georgie and Rob share their experiences of applying the schema therapy model to the teaching of music and to boxing training.
In this episode, we chat with trainer, writer and Advanced Schema Therapist Remco van der Wijngaart (Netherlands) about how best to develop skills in Schema therapy, new developments within the model and perspectives on empathic confrontation.
Towards a Reformulated Theory Underlying Schema Therapy: Position Paper of an International Workgroup
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10608-021-10209-5
Training in Australia (April & May 2026) - Remco van Der Wijngaart - https://schematherapytraining.com
Some more information about our guest Graham Kell- www.flourishpsychology.com.au/graham-kell
In this episode, Chris looks at chairwork in Schema Therapy. Specifically, he looks at ways to overcome problems and improve skills in applying the technique.
Interested in some more reading? Check out these great resources
Kellogg, S. (2014). Transformational chairwork: Using psychotherapeutic dialogues in clinical practice. Bloomsbury Publishing PLC
van der Wijngaart (2023) Chairwork: Theory and Practice, Pavilion
In this episode we speak with Professor Arnoud Arntz, a founding developer and researcher of the Schema Therapy Model. We discuss new developments and proposed changes to the schema model- a must watch!
Willing to help with Professor Arntz research into the new SMI- visit https://www.schema-therapy-instruments.socsci.uva.nl/
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